Who won the debate?? VOTE!!! Hurry, as these websites are removing their polls as they want to censor the truth. They are removing all vestiges of the vote, in a scrub reminiscent of the 2000 coup and probably a forecast of things to come...

MSNBC --MSNBC --22:52EST snapshot: Who won the debate? *112627 responses --Dick Cheney 23% - John Edwards 77%
CNN (Scroll down, right bottom.) CNN --22:43:36EST snapshot: Dick Cheney 14%, 7708 votes - John Edwards 85%, 44745 votes - Evenly matched 4%, 2071 votes
CBS -- 23:13EST snapshot: Dick Cheney: 23.83% - John Edwards: 74.49% - Neither man. It was a draw: 1.67%
Orlando Sentinel --23:30EST snapshot: Dick Cheney 22.8%, 8774 responses - John Edwards 77.0%, 29615 responses - Not sure 0.2%, 85 responses
Ohio.com --23:40EST snapshot: Dick Cheney 2%, 574 votes - John Edwards 98%, 29929 votes

Because the Republicans cannot win on substance with Dick Halliburton: GOP Campaign Urges Post-Debate Spin --The GOP campaign is urging supporters to help spin post-debate polls in Cheney's favor. In letters sent Tuesday, Republicans asked supporters to defeat the "Kerry campaign spin machine" while Democrats aimed for another "online coup d'etat," which they did following last week's presidential debate. [We would rather have an *online* coup d'etat than (another) *actual* coup d'etat, such as the one in 2000 that installed Bush as pResident (dictator).]

Transcript: Vice Presidential Debate Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio --October 5, 2004 --"SENATOR JOHN EDWARDS: Here's why we didn't think Halliburton should have a no-bid contract. While he [Dick Cheney] was CEO of Halliburton, they paid millions of dollars in fines for providing false information on their company, just like Enron and Ken Lay. They did business with Libya and Iran, two sworn enemies of the United States. [Just like Prescott Bush, when doing business with the Nazis!] They're now under investigation for having bribed foreign officials during that period of time. Not only that, they've gotten a $7.5 billion no-bid contract in Iraq, and instead of part of their money being withheld, which is the way it's normally done, because they're under investigation, they've continued to get their money....'' --Senator John Edwards, during the Vice Presidential debate

HalliburtonWatch today published the "A Handy Guide to Halliburton for the VP Debate." "It contains a quick summary of the most important (and often ignored) issues regarding Halliburton that may arise during tonight's debate between Vice President [sic] Dick Cheney and Sen. John Edwards."

Iraq Spurs Sharpest Exchange in Debate --[Liar] Cheney Asserts Hussein-Al Qaeda Ties; Edwards Accuses Cheney of Misleading America --Iraq dominated the first half of a feisty vice presidential debate from its opening moments, as Vice President [sic] Cheney asserted that deposed dictator Saddam Hussein had "an established relationship with al Qaeda" that justified the U.S.-led invasion -- a claim that caused Democrat John Edwards to charge that Cheney is "still not being straight with the American people."

Cheney, Edwards Trade Sharp Attacks on Iraq --Vice pResident Dick Cheney and Democratic Sen. John Edwards battled fiercely over the war in Iraq on Tuesday in a debate that featured repeated personal attacks on the other side's records and judgment.

Meeting Was Not First for Cheney, Edwards --Vice President [sic] Dick Cheney said Tuesday that the debate against Democratic Sen. John Edwards marked the first time the two had met. In fact, the two had met twice previously.

Kerry gains and Edwards takes baton --A Gallup poll taken after the debate has Dictator Bush and Senator Kerry in a dead heat. Just a week ago, the same poll put Mr Bush so far ahead - by eight points - that Democrat supporters accused the polling company of bias, citing the owner's ties with evangelical Christians. The dynamic of the presidential campaign has clearly changed. While Mr Bush's strategists are now saying the closing gap is "no surprise", the truth is they are thrown by Senator Kerry's comeback.

"When I walk into that debate tonight, I am there for YOU. There is no other way to say it." --Senator John Edwards, Oct. 5, at a rally (MSNBC live). Well, we all *know* that Dick Cheney is there for *Halliburton,* the Christian Coalition, pharmaceutical terrorists, and W-ar mongers. *Gravitas,* my ass! You can't spin it, Faux. Dick Cheney is a disgusting, cowardly, pathetic lump of lard and Senator Edwards is a brilliant, experienced, caring, special man who LIVES 'family values' and has the *gravitas* to become president, should he need to assume that role.

Two US officials embarrass Bush on Iraq --Statements by two top US policymakers contradicting regime dogma on Iraq provided new fuel to relentless Democratic criticism of Dictator George W. Bush that have jolted his re-selection bid.

White House Silent on Bremer Troop Request --The White House refused to say Tuesday whether the top U.S. civilian official in Iraq after Saddam Hussein's ouster had asked Dictator Bush for more troops to deal with the rapid descent of postwar Iraq into chaos. In remarks published Tuesday, the official, L. Paul Bremer, said he arrived in Iraq on May 6, 2003 to find "horrid'' looting and a very unstable situation.

Rumsfeld flip-flop on links between Hussein, bin Laden --US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has said he knew of no clear link between Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, although he later retracted the statement and said he was misunderstood. Asked to describe the connection between the former Iraqi leader and the Al-Qaida at an appearance yesterday at the Council on Foreign Relations, Mr Rumsfeld first refused to answer, then said: "To my knowledge, I have not seen any strong, hard evidence that links the two."

Speech by Donald Rumsfeld --Speech by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld before the Council on Foreign Relations in New York City, October 4, 2004 "QUESTIONER: ...Mr. Secretary, what exactly was the connection between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda? RUMSFELD: I tell you, I'm not going to answer the question. I have seen the answer to that question migrate in the intelligence community over the period of a year in the most amazing way. Second, there are differences in the intelligence community as to what the relationship was. To my knowledge, I have not seen any strong, hard evidence that links the two."

U.S., Iraqi forces push new offensive --More than 3,000 U.S. and Iraqi troops launched a major operation Tuesday in a strategic province south of the capital, the second major offensive in the past week. ... U.S. warplanes continued pounding enemy strongholds in Baghdad's Sadr City neighborhood, a near-nightly scene since late August.

Mother collapses, dies days after son killed in Iraq (AZ) Friends say Karen Unruh-Wahrer collapsed and died at her Tucson home, days after learning that Army Specialist Robert Unruh had been shot and killed near Baghdad on September 25th. He'd been in Iraq less than a month when his unit was attacked. His 45-year-old mother collapsed Saturday -- just hours after seeing her son's body.

House Republicans seek to quash military draft rumor --House Republicans sought Tuesday to quash an undying Internet rumor that the government will reinstate a military draft after the election, hoping with a vote to kill legislation that would do it, and the rumor as well.

US 'never' had enough troops in Iraq: former governor --The former US governor of Iraq said the United States "never" had enough ground troops there to establish firm control, contradicting assertions by Dictator George W. Bush and top Pentagon officials that the US military had what it needed to win the war.

Former CIA official looks to leak the truth --Retired CIA intelligence analyst Ray McGovern has said a prostitution of the intelligence system has taken place. Some of its leaders have sold out and backed down under the pressure of the Bush regime. "We've created the longest recruiting lines Al Qaeda ever had," he said. McGovern said the Bush regime has been untruthful about the condition in Iraq. He said he thinks the CIA is being asked to withhold the truth from the American public.

Dogs pick at corpses as US strike subdues Iraqi city --Waving white flags, Iraqis have fled Samarra on river boats as US forces claimed victory over insurgents in an offensive aimed at taking control of rebel-held cities. .... The US strategy of "precision strikes" also came in for criticism from Iraqi President Ghazi Yawar, who described the air assaults as collective punishment. Aid organisations said they were concerned about a lack of water and electricity and the fate of hundreds of families forced to flee. One man, who said he escaped the city yesterday, reported that civilians had been killed. He said he had seen dogs picking at corpses in the street. "I swear I saw dogs eating the body of a woman," he said. Residents said bodies were left in the streets, untended due to the fear of snipers.

Four U.S. Soldiers Charged With Murder -- Four soldiers accused of smothering an Iraqi general during an interrogation last fall have been charged with murder, bringing the total number of U.S. troops charged with murder in Iraq to at least 10.

Air Force Looks at New Microwave Weapon --The Air Force expects planes will be able to fire non-lethal microwave rays at enemy ground troops with the help of a new superconducting generator system developed at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base after about 25 years of research.

Oil Above $51 a Barrel on Corporate Greed ['Supply Outage'] --Oil prices leaped above $51 a barrel on Tuesday as a prolonged U.S. production outage following 'Hurricane Ivan' [LOL!] attracted fresh speculative buying. [Oh. And, the price of oil was low *before* Hurricane Ivan??? NOT.]

House votes to break up S.F. based-9th Circuit court --The Republican-led House voted Tuesday to break up the San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, an action opponents said was motivated by Reichwingers' ire over some of the court's rulings. Nine western states are currently covered by the 9th Circuit, but the legislation would leave just California and Hawaii in a revamped lineup.

Protesters Ransack Bush/Cheney Headquarters In Orlando --2 People Receive Minor Injuries During Protest --A group of protesters stormed and then ransacked a Bush-Cheney headquarters building in Orlando, Fla., Tuesday, according to Local 6 News. Local 6 News reported that several people from the group of 100 Orlando protesters face possible assault charges after the group forced their way inside the Republican headquarters office.

Yes, but where was Phil? Shots fired into Knox Bush/Cheney headquarters (TN) Oct. 5, 2004 --An 'unknown suspect' [by Reichwinger Phil Parlock, perpetual Democratic dirty trickster and phony 'sign-ripping' victim? On September 2, 2004, a shot was fired into Cabell County Republican Headquarters (Huntington, WV) where supporters gathered to watch coverage of the Repugnant Nazi Convention. According to a WCHS-TV news report... Phil Parlock just 'happened' to be there, too... another coincidence.] fired several shots into the Bearden office of the Bush/Cheney re-selection campaign Tuesday morning. The headquarters are located at 4618 Kingston Pike, next to Noveau Classics and in the same shopping plaza as Long's Drugstore.

Growing up in America is bad for health of immigrant children --The health of immigrant children gets worse the longer they live in the United States and become more like Americans, a study has found.

Halliburton Set for Spotlight in VP Debates --A name likely to come up in Tuesday's vice presidential debate is Halliburton, the Texas company once run by [still 'run' by] Dick Cheney that Democrats say is an example of cronyism because of its lucrative Iraq deals.

Rumsfeld casts doubts on Saddam terror link --American Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has admitted he has not seen any 'strong, hard evidence' linking ousted Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden's al-Qa'ida.

Soldiers Charged in Iraqi General's Death --Four soldiers were charged with murder Monday in the asphyxiation death of an Iraqi general during questioning in Iraq last fall.