Betreff: ... after a short gasp for fresh air
Von: "ECOTERRA Intl."
Datum: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 01:23:23 +0300
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... after a short gasp for fresh air:

The Divided States of the North American South (DSNAS) hopefully will entangle
themselves in neo-secessionist wars (of courts, of words, of money) and leave thereby
the rest of the world in Peace!

And worldwide - we will see more GWB-free zones springing up and people’s
tribunals against US-UK
becoming important !

gwBush speaks for himself:

"We'll be tough and resolute as we unite, to make sure freedom stands, to rout out evil, to say to our children and grandchildren, we were bold enough to act, without tiring, so that you can live in a great land and in a peaceful world. And there's no doubt in my mind, not one doubt in my mind, that we will fail." - George W. Bush

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namaste wrote:


Wallow In Chaos, And Laugh
A pro-Bush outcome and one enormous bitter pill and you without your vodka


http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2004/11/03/notes110304.DTL&nl=fix

By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist
Wednesday, November 3, 2004


Oh dear God please not again.

Oh dear God please don't let it be all convoluted and depressing and messy and stupid and please don't let it all embarrass us on an international level all over again even more than it already has and even more than it already is and even more than we've endured lo these past four debilitating and soul-crushing years. Hello? Please? Is it already too late?

Why yes, yes it is.

And lo and behold, it was apparently another completely tortuous and entirely knotted presidential election, unfinished until the wee hours and reeking of E-voting suspicion and exit-poll miscalculation and it all came down to, what?  Ohio? Are you serious?  What a thing.

And now Kerry's conceded and the white flag has been raised and we are headed toward the utterly appalling notion of another four years of Bush and another Republican stranglehold of Congress and repeated GOP chants of "More War in '04!"

Which is, well, simply staggering. Mind blowing. Odd. Gut wrenching. Colon knotting. Eyeball gouging. And so on.

You want to block it out. You want to rend your flesh and yank your hair and say no way in hell and lean out your window and scream into the Void and pray it will all be over soon, even though you know you're an atheist Buddhist Taoist Rosicrucian Zen Orgasmican and you don't normally pray to anything except maybe the gods of really exceptional sake and skin-tingling sex and maybe a few luminous transcendental deities that look remarkably like Jenna Jameson.

It simply boggles the mind: we've already had four years of some of the most appalling and abusive foreign and domestic policy in American history, some of the most well-documented atrocities ever wrought on the American populace and it's all combined with the biggest and most violently botched and grossly mismanaged war since Vietnam, and much of the nation still insists in living in a giant vat of utter blind faith, still insists on believing the man in the White House couldn't possibly be treating them like a dog treats a fire hydrant.

Inexplicable?  Not really. People want to believe.  They want to trust their leaders, even against all screaming, neon-lit evidence and stack upon stack of flagrant, impeachment-grade lie.  They simply cannot allow that Dubya might really be an utter boob and that they are being treated like an abused, beaten housewife who keeps coming back for more, insisting her drunk husband didn't mean it, that she probably had it coming, that the cuts and bruises and blood and broken bones are all for her own good.

And this election, it might be all be very amusing, in a Mel Gibson-y, blood-drenched hamburger-of-Christ sorta way, were it not so sad and dangerous.  It might all be tolerable and cute, in a violence-engorged, sexist, video-game-y sorta way, were it not so lopsided and wrong.

This election's outcome, this heartbreaking proof of a nation split more deeply and decisively than ever, it simply reinforces the feeling among much of the educated populace: It is a weirdly embarrassing time to be an American. It is jarring and oddly shattering and makes you rethink what it really means to be a part of this country.  The answer: It doesn't mean much at all.  Not really.  Not anymore.

This is the common wisdom on the progressive Left. Those first four toxic Bush years?  A fluke. A phantasm. A stolen election.  A gaff, a mugging, a crime.  But this?  An election this close makes you reconsider.  Maybe, after all, we aren't nearly as far along as we think.  Maybe we're not all that sophisticated or nuanced or respectable a nation as we sometimes dare to dream.

Maybe, in fact, we're regressing, back to the days of guns and sexism and pre-emptive violence, of environmental abuse and no rights for women and a sincere hatred of gays and foreigners and minorities. Sound familiar?  It should: it's the modern GOP
(actually, NeoCon, LDC) platform.

Here's the thing: for tens of millions of us, it is simply unconscionable that we could possibly be led for another four years by a small and spoiled little man who has very little real idea what he's doing and even less of how the hell he got there.  It would be funny, in a Adam Sandler, toilet-humored sort of way, were it not so poisonous and depressing. And yet it looks like we're stuck with it, like a shard of glass buried deep in the eye.

And the rest of the world?  Well, it can only watch us and
shake its collective head and wonder just what the hell is wrong with us, why so many millions of us would even consider re-electing the world's most inept and war-hungry and insanely inarticulate man to four more years of unchecked power, why our much-hyped much-coveted supposedly ultrasuperior democratic system is so very deeply blotchy and knotty and spoiled.

So then, to much of Europe, Russia, Asia, Canada, Mexico, the Middle East -- to all those dozens of major world nations who want Bush out almost as much as the educated people of America, to you we can only say: We are so very, very sorry. We don't know how it happened, either. For tens of millions of us, Bush is not our president and never will be. That's how divisive. That's how dangerous. That's how very sad it has become.

The GOP
(NeoConArtist) steamroller appears to be just too powerful, just too well oiled and blood soaked and fear inducing to be stopped just yet.  After all, the Right has been working on this master plan and building their takeover strategy for about forty years (Longer). It's gonna take those of us working for change and progress and raw spiritual juice a little more than one or two years to dissolve it away like the cancer it so obviously is.

Apparently, there are lessons yet to be learned. Apparently, we must hit some sort of new low between now and 2008, attain some sort of seriously vicious status in the world before we will snap out of it.  You think?
This much is clear: We are not, with a grim Bush victory, headed for buoyancy and friendship and sincere hope for something new and refreshing.  We are not, with another four years of what we just endured, headed toward any sort of easing of bitter tension, a sense of levity, or sexual openness, or true education, or gender respect, or a lightness of spirit and of step.

Maybe the best we can hope for, at this ominous and slightly sickening moment, is one hell of a lot more patience


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heroay wrote:
DON'T READ, or you'll be sick!!

REMEMBER WHEN WE USED TO CRITICIZE, RIDICULE EVEN, THIRD WORLD 'ELECTIONS'?  NOW, OUTRIGHT, THE LAUGH IS ON US.  THIS COUNTRY DOES, LIKE ANY OTHER, DESERVE THE SCOUNDRELS WHO RUN THE SHOW.
 
 
America is screwed: Election stolen again
With Kerry's concession, America has become a one-party nation. If the Democrats could not defeat a President who lied the nation into a war, then the Democrats have ceased to be relevent. [THEY HAVE]
 
Kerry Concedes
Giving up without a fight. [SAME AS GORE?]
 
Justin Raimondo: The US will now be ruled by the imperial party
 
FRAUD LOOKS PROBABLE
In states with paper trails, the vote results match the exit polling numbers. In state with eletronic voting machines with no paper trails, the vote results do NOT match the exit polls, and Bush leads.
 
Don't Be American
Many times over the last nine hours I’ve thought kindly of the hundreds of thousands of Americans who have worked tirelessly over the past four years against the policies of the Bush presidency. To those people I must ask forgiveness for my siding with the world outside America. It is they, as well as the people who voted for Bush, who will have to bear the shame of belonging to a society that democratically elects war criminals to office.
 
It was standing room only at local polls
In Suffolk, Bob Rogers also had difficulty with an electronic machine. He said he tried to vote for Sen. John F. Kerry, but the machine kept highlighting President Bush instead. The precinct captain finally had the machine reset, he said.
 
Possible evidence of voter fraud in Ohio
What's worse, Stefan noticed the pick-up truck of the supposed county board of election - the truck the ballots for 40 precincts were loaded into - had a big Bush-Cheney 2004 sticker in the back window. Stefan did say that he followed the truck to the election headquarters, though he didn't see what transpired after the truck pulled into the election hq parking lot. As Stefan explains it, the poll managers had such an extensive list of voters rights and regulations that they had to follow, including it being illegal to have any partisan buttons etc. in the polling place, yet the ballots for voters in over 40 precincts were put in the hands of Bush-Cheney partisans.
 
U.S. voters report computer problems
Diebold wins US Election.
 
Voting without auditing. (Are we insane?)
Did the voting machines trump exit polls? There’s a way to find out.
 
MASSIVE VOTE FRAUD HAPPENING
This election is being stolen before your eyes. The criminals are not even bothering to hide the theft.

If a government cannot prove the honesty and accuracy of the election by which they claim authority, the people are neither morally nor legally obligated to obey that government's dictates or to pay its bills.

Group tallies more than 1,100 e-voting glitches
And those are just the ones that were spotted!
 
EXIT POLLING VS. ACTUAL SUGGESTS FRAUD...
Exit polls and ‘actual’ results don’t match; Evoting states show greater discrepancy.
The mainstream media is trying to sell the idea that voters lied tothe exit pollsters and that's why the exit polls were "wrong".

How They Could Steal the Election This Time
On November 2 millions of Americans will cast their votes for President in computerized voting systems that can be rigged by corporate or local-election insiders. Some 98 million citizens, five out of every six of the roughly 115 million who will go to the polls, will consign their votes into computers that unidentified computer programmers, working in the main for four private corporations and the officials of 10,500 election jurisdictions, could program to invisibly falsify the outcomes.

 
FLAshback: Ohio: Ground Zero For Bush Fundraising
But when you look at three Ohio mega-fundraisers for Bush -- W.R. Timken, CEO of Timken Company; Anthony Alexander, president of FirstEnergy Corporation; and Walden O'Dell, CEO of Diebold Corporation -- a delicious microcosm emerges: In these three examples of special interest fundraising, we have three of the recurring themes of Bush's administration. 1) Tax cuts for the wealthy (Timken) that have produced job stagnation and cuts for the common folks; 2) Paybacks to corporate polluters (Alexander); and 3) Support from well-positioned, powerful players (O'Dell), which has created the appearance of rigging the game to aid his success.
 
The Diebold Memos' Smoking Gun - Volusia County Memos Disclose Election 2000 Vote Fraud
In Chapter 11 of her new book "Black Box Voting In the 21st Century" released early today in .PDF format at Blackboxvoting.com and here at Scoop Ms Harris observes. "If you strip away the partisan rancor over the 2000 election, you are left with the undeniable fact that a presidential candidate conceded the election to his opponent based on [results from] a second card that mysteriously appears, subtracts 16,022 votes, then just as mysteriously disappears."
It should come as no surprise that Diebold machines come up with vote results that do not match the exit polls.
 
More Reports of vote problems coming in.
As I made each choice, they were shown correctly on the screen. However, when I reached the review screen, two of my votes had been changed. I corrected them before casting ballot, but am wondering if this may have happened to other voters who may not have reviewed their ballots. (I was with two friends who said they didn't bother to review theirs, but just assumed they were okay.)
 
2004 COLLECTED VOTE FRAUD STORIES
Russian Observer Shocked by U.S. Election Procedures
“In my opinion there are possibilities to forge the elections results and these possibilities are caused by serious, as we see it, violations of the electoral law,” the MP said in a telephone interview.
 
Voters Report Problems with Computer Systems
Voters across the United States reported problems with electronic touch-screen systems on Tuesday in what critics said could be a sign that the machines used by one-third of the population were prone to error.
ONE THIRD OF THE VOTE ON ELECTRONIC MACHINES MAY BE IN ERROR. This election is totally discredited.
 
 

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truthout wrote:

What a Bush Win Will Mean for America
  By Mark Tran
  The Guardian U.K.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/comment/story/0,14259,1342535,00.html 

  Wednesday 03 November 2004

A second term in the White House for Bush could have far reaching effects not only on the economy, but on the social fabric of the country, says Mark Tran.

  As he heads for another four years in the White House - barring a shock in Ohio - George Bush will have the chance to tilt the supreme court firmly to the right and leave a lasting imprint on the US's social and political fabric.

  Three of the nine supreme court justices could well step down in the next few years. Chief justice William Rehnquist, an 80-year-old Nixon appointee, who was hospitalised last week following complications arising from thyroid cancer, is surely looking at retirement. Justices John Paul Stevens, 84, and Sandra Day O'Connor, 74, have also indicated an interest in stepping down.

  Unlike presidents, supreme court justices are not hobbled by term limits and can stay on for decades. The president who appoints them is therefore presented with an opportunity to mould the powerful body according to his political tastes - with the caveat that such judges can often confound expectations.

  We can expect big battles in Congress as Democrats seek to block Mr Bush from packing the court with conservative judges. The president has made it clear what kind of judges he wants in the court, holding up as models two of the court's most conservative members, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas.

  In the coming years, the supreme court is expected to consider some of the most divisive social issues in the US: private property rights and government land seizure, gay marriage and partial-birth abortion.

   The importance of the court cannot be underestimated. It was the supreme court that segregated American schools and then reversed the judgment. It was the supreme court that made the famous Roe v Wade ruling that confirmed a woman's right to an abortion. The amendment has long been a bugbear for the religious right, which may well seek to overturn the ruling once Mr Bush has made his appointments.

   On the economic front, the White House has been building up problems that will have to be tackled sooner or later. In his first term, the Bush administration engineered what an International Monetary Fund economist termed as the "best recovery that money can buy".

  That recovery rested on huge tax cuts and massive government - especially military - spending. The result has been enormous US budget and trade deficits that the IMF believe to be unsustainable. Unless Mr Bush starts to soak up the pool of red ink, interest rates will have to rise as a corrective measure, which could push the US into recession.

  To tame the US deficit, Mr Bush may well have to make a u-turn and raise taxes - as his father, despite his "read my lips, no new taxes" pledge, did before him. Perhaps the only consolation for Kerry supporters is that Mr Bush will now have to take some unpalatable measures to correct the massive economic imbalances that have developed under his first term.

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  Mark Tran reported for the Guardian from the US from 1984 to 1989.

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adelaideinstitute wrote:

Why did George W Bush win the November 2, 2004 US election?

Simple:

 

1. For the same reason that Australian John Howard won his election - both condemned anti-heterosexual marriage, and so the family became supreme again - much to the majority's liking.

 

2. Support for Israel - signing of the GAS (Global Anti-Semitism) Bill,  gained support of International-multinationals.

 

3. Use of simplistic them-us  categories, and allusions to patriotism.

 

4. The USA is not ready yet for a Jewish President.

 

5. Telling lies to find cause for war, i.e. 9/11 scam.

 

6. 280 million people dumbed down and saturated with fear.

 

7. US media manipulating FACTS because in White House pocket.


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scherrer wrote:

Unfortunately my prediction was correct.

USA chose Bush, so they chose war!

Bush’s order to attack Fallujah can be expected in the next days.

The USA is extremely polarized, urban costal liberal vs. rural Middle West and southern conservative and religious bigotry is booming. Half of the USA is regressing back into the dark Middle Ages. The decisive factor ticking the balance for Bush were “moral values” and religion.

US will shift further to the right edge. Foreign policy will become even more imperialist. Powell will be gone and replaced by one of the neocon extremists (perhaps Wolfowitz). The likelihood that USA will antagonize the rest of the world is greatly increasing.

Bush needs to pass the military draft bill in order to “win the war” in Iraq. He needs more soldiers to break the military stalemate in Iraq. This is now easier because both houses of Congress have a clear Republican majority. The anti-war movement must multiply to prevent this.

The Bush gang wants to bog down the resistance in Iraq as soon as they can in order to win strategic manoeuvrability, e.g. the credible threat to be able to start new wars. Keep in mind, the US superpower is not that super. It can not launch two major wars at the same time.

The only good news: More wars will make a financial breakdown in the USA possible, considering the current 420 billion federal budget deficit. This is could prevent the worst, aggression against more countries in the Middle East, or North Korea for that matter.

One conclusion is that the people’s tribunals against US-UK are now more necessary than ever, to uphold the notion of accountability and as a catalyst for the anti-war movement.

CP Scherrer

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*Sydney Peace Prize winner urges Iraqi resistance*
: ABC News
Wednesday November 3, 2004
 
Controversial author Arundhati Roy has urged people to join the Iraqi resistance.

Ms Roy will deliver a lecture in Sydney tonight, where she will be presented with the Sydney Peace Prize.

Like last year's winner, Palestinian Hanan Ashrawi, Ms Roy's selection has once again come under attack from some quarters.

The judges have awarded the prize to Ms Roy for her commitment to the philosophy and principles of non-violence, which the Booker Prize winner says should be used by Iraqis opposed to Coalition forces in their country

Ms Roy also defended her call for people to join the Iraqi resistance.

"One wasn't urging them to join the Medhi army [in Iraq] but to become the resistance, to become part of what ought to be a non-violent resistance against a very violent occupation," she said.

"That is to redefine what resistance means, you know we can't just assume that resistance means terrorism because that would be playing right into the hands of the occupation."

Ms Roy, who urged Australians to vote against Prime Minister John Howard at the election, says it is difficult to see why the war was not a major election issue.

"The sense that that kind of brutality is good, or at the very least acceptable and in the interests of people here is, I suppose, one of the biggest dilemmas that face the world today," she said.

"On the one hand that democracy is circumscribed by the idea of a nation state and on the other hand these huge wars and the movement of global capital are global in that sense, so there's a big discrepancy there."
 
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